Ok guys and girls, manipulators. I sense that most people on this forum prefer people to be straight with them, and as such, may have had memorable experiences trying to deal with manipulators. What do I mean by a manipulator? When someone wants something from you, but rather than ask directly, they try to con you into voluntarily doing whatever it is they want by telling you hard luck stories, acting helpless etc. Someone who may act pleasant towards you when in your company, or in the company of others, but turns on you when you're alone with them. Someone who spreads rumours about you to other people in your family or social group, usually in an effort to turn as many people as possible against you. This serves the skilled manipulators aim of getting other people to do their work for them, i.e. the manipulator may act pleasant towards you or around you whilst others who have been negatively influenced behave coldly or distrustfully towards you. Gaslighting is a form of manipulation, and can go on for years much to the frustration of the targeted individual. Many, many people do not appear to be sensitive or attuned to subtler forms of manipulation like gaslighting, and some people keep quiet about it for the sake of peace, or so as not to appear "crazy" for calling attention to it. Twisting of words and conversations, forcing a narrative that may show the manipulator to be the victim and the manipulated to be the aggressor. Excessive victim narratives, even a persecution complex, in which others are evil, mean, unethical, brutish, etc, but the perpetual "victim" is seldom at fault in any significant way. Conning you, your family, or friends out of money, possibly isolating them in the process of the con. Convincing people that other people are their enemies, sometimes for sport, other times to isolate an individual. These are just a few examples. One of the most important thing to note about manipulators is that sometimes there may be no clear motive at all for their behaviour. Some people have a crooked disposition, some fear confrontation, some are cowards, some think that manipulating people is funny, some feel that it places them in a position of power over others so they themselves must feel powerless and weak to begin with.. Often, the more logical and rational minds among us are confused by the apparent lack of motive in a manipulators actions, which in itself can shield a crafty manipulator from discovery and negative attention. Above all a manipulator fears being exposed, so simply being aware of their nature can make you a target. Post stories of encounters you've had with people like this. With enough contributions, an article that might be helpful to people could emerge from this thread. What did they do? How did you detect them? Did you try to take action against them? Did you lose friends/family/jobs because of a manipulator? How did you ultimately deal with them? Any tips for detection, and dealing with manipulators?