I thought I'd cover this topic after seeing another male site slating and laying into them as being callous, self serving and almost bordering on the sociopathic. I could not get my head around this, the fact that guys were actually talking other guys out of wanting to get better at talking to and interacting with women. From everything I had seen PUA guys seem to be out to improve themselves much like our goals here, with the exception of a few who take this stuff too far, get excessively egotistical and develope some kind of God complex. I believe pursuing and ultimately getting better at attracting the opposite sex is an instinctive natural part of being human. For those who believe that sociopathy can be caught by practising having certain attitudes and beliefs when engaging with women is a little idiotic, its a little like saying you can catch the crazy from crazy people (probably not PC?). If that were the case all the people who work around those people would eventually end up in there with them. Some of their techniques, one of which I can think of which would seem not so nice for women is the "negging" one. According to others this is meant to bring a woman's self esteem down so much that she caves in and sleeps with whoever is bringing her down. Now this to me seems like BS, maybe with some women they suddenly lose their self esteem, but most women who I have argued with, if you call them any names they give as good as they get if not better and very very rarely will they let you get away with it. This "negging" technique then to me would seem like a way for guys to get their head straight. So many guys have a habit of "pedestalizing women, that they become this unattainable princess that is way better than they are and that can't be approached let alone asked out. So maybe "negging" is a way to mentally kick them off this pedestal in the guys mind? No need to make someone feel bad about themselves, but I think its important to view people as human people, warts and all and maintain perspective. I have never tried any of these PUA techniques myself and I'm probably a little old now anyway. I have always relied on being a handsome ginger fella and being cheeky to woo the women of my past. Cheekiness and taking the mickey I have always found to be most useful, it lets you know if they are interested and more importantly if they have a sense of humour. So all in all I think like anything, PUA has some negatives, but like anything I would say absorb the parts that are useful and reject what is not. If you are a good person at heart I don't believe studying anything external is going to make you bad if you are true to yourself. What do you guys think?